Ragnarök

Huge congregants on the win, CJ!

Congratulations CJ!

Thank you so much guys! I made a few edits before the cup (in defklis rag 2.0) but I'll update this one and drop a primer in a few days!

Great win CJ! I Sam the video of your match, and it was a great game.

Also, why the Surveyors? Are they just so you can speedrun Roots?

Hey you did amazing in the tournament! Im excited to see your list as well! Surveyor's help in a few ways. I don't always speedrun roots but I always want to scry atlas. So if I play crossroads and follow up with surveyor I can get the site I want off the top and continue scrying away what I don't want next turn. They also help fill my hand with sites for after roots so I can take a spell even while playing out sites. Also they are good chump blockers against aggressive decks to buy me more time for my combo

Thanks! For after Roots, would you want to think about Pudge? I feel like pudge is great because it allows for you to play something else potentially, and it also cannot be hit with something like Poison Nova.

My list is on discord, by the way.

I actually tested pudge but with all the rubble the opposing avatar can walk out of the way. Yes it's good bc it means they can't play a land but it's 2 threshold, it's not fetchable, and it's less reliable for pushing damage than Amazon's. I think it's something you could flex into the deck but I found it less effective

Btw the list as of 6/19 is the one I used for S4 of the league not the Courtesan cup. I'll update it tonight and add the primer! The new list has like 4 card changes

Thanks! That explains a lot.

Ok updated the list and wrote up the primer

Great list and congratulations for the win Ceej ! What are your thoughts about Philo Stone in the deck ? Is a single Angel's Egg really useful and lifegain relevant ?

Why only 1 Scorched Earth? I feel that it can be really powerful, like what happen in S4 finals with Kevin. If that had been a bedrock that would have been amazing.

Congrats CJ at the Courtesan Cup of 2024! Great deck. And great job piloting it.

I initially had pstone and/or cores in the deck but I'm not trying to ramp to a certain mana I just want the combo so they didn't feel necessary. And they aren't good draws late game when I'm just trying to close the game out. Also I rarely double spell so pstone never felt good. Angels egg is only sometimes useful but it steals games against aggro so I like having one. Bc I'm playing seer I like a lot of 1 ofs bc I find them somewhat consistently and can bottom them when they aren't relevant. As to scorched earth, it's an amazing card but in 9/10 games I don't use it. If everything goes right I sinkholes roots to blow up the board so I don't need the removal and then I'd rather have a body to push damage. When things go wrong it's helpful to have to hit my own bedrocks and wipe some minions or aura but usually 1 is enough. After roots I never really want it I just want more minions for damage

And thanks 2fluent!

Cool deck, and thanks for sharing all your insights! If you knew your opponent was going to use this deck, what deck would you play to maximize your win percentage, with the caveat that you can’t run roots?

If it’s the case that this deck is winning the rock-paper-scissors against most decks except Geomancer roots, then I’m worried roots will be showing up everywhere. My sense is that it’s also not particularly fun to lose against this deck, since the opponent often doesn’t get to play their game. With my tournament organizer hat on, I want to ensure all players have as much fun as possible, ideally even while losing!

I think this deck beats a lot of the S4 league meta which is why I ran it for the cup! I do think that with roots popularity the meta will likely shift. Im building some counters now that are untested but if I wanted to grab a list I might grab Bloom (Mike's) mono earth midrange sorcerer and perhaps add mix tera (both for post roots and for the T2 pudge)

Rangarok also loses a fair amount. CJ went 4-2 d1 of the CCup and that is with no one really knowing about the deck as he didn’t get to showcase what it did in the online League and him practicing the decklist for months versus all kind of decks. I know what decks I’d run if I’d like an equal chance or better to beating CJs deck, but the question is do you want to make a deck that beats CJs deck or one that has a good shot at beating most? (Side note there is another combo that is not fun to play against that I hope doesn’t get picked up. It is Anti-fun lol)

Great job at the Cup! Congrats!